Lonsdor K518ISE is most powerful key programmer
K518ISE key programmer is the latest version of Lonsdor, English version, Android based, online upgrading, updating and activating.
Support Immobilization, Odometer adjustment, VW 4th&5th IMMO,Free BMW FEM key programming
Comparison with other key programmer：
| Product Name | Lonsdor K518ISE | SKP1000 | OBDSTAR X300 Pro3 | SKP900 |
| Appearance |  |  |  |  |
| Price | $1,195 | $477.99 | $494 | $377 |
| Manufacturer | Lonsdor | Lonsdor | OBDSTAR | SuperOBD |
| Official Website | http://en.lonsdor.com | http://www.gpobd.com/ | http://www.obdstar.com | http://superobd.com/ |
| Update Method | update online | Lifetime free update software and firmware | update online | update online |
| Vehicle Coverage | has a wide range of vehicle coverage, incl. the luxury cars i.e BMW, Volvo, Ferrari, Bentley, Lamborghini as well as Volkswagen 4th 5th IMMO,Toyota/Lexus smart key all key lost via OBD etc. | nearly the same vehicle coverage as SuperOBD skp900 | Obdstar x300 vehicle list Find the function you want,and download the vehicle list pdf to check | Support almost all vehicles in the world |
| Functions | OBD mileage adjustment, oil/service reset, ETC, EPB, EEPROM chip read. Immobilization Odometer adjustment Built-in Volkswagen 4th 5th adapter Built-in Chip & remote detection module. Free BMW FEM key programming | Special function:OBD mileage adjustment, remote controller, oil/service reset, ETC, EPB, EEPROM chip read. | X-300 pro3 Key Master will covers Skp-900, OBDSTAR X100 Pro and X300 Pro function, which can support Immobilizer, Odometer Adjust. Eprom/PIC, OBDII, EPB, Oil/Service reset and Battery Matching… | Key programming,read pin code |
Powerful Features:
Volvo (S40, S60, S80, XC60, XC90, C30, C70, V40, V60, V70) key programming.
Toyota/Lexus: smart key all key lost – via OBD ( without dismantle)
BMW CAS3/CAS3+/CAS3++: direct OBD programming
BMW CAS4/CAS4+: dismantle & read data programming
16 -New Maserati: smart key programming
16 -New Ford: smart key programming
Hyundai / Kia 46/47/8A smart key: PIN code reading via OBD, all key lost included.
Renault ( Megane, Koleos, Scenic) without PIN code key programming
VAG group 4th & 5th immobilizer system
Ferrari (458, F12, F149): direct OBD programming
Peugeot /Citroen: two ways to read PIN code & programming, all keys lost included.
A new key programmer, works perfect!
How Will VVDI MB renew original keys for reuse?
As titled, possible to renew original keys for reuse with VVDI MB BGA Tool key programmer? and how?
Solution:
If it is nec key, YES
if BGA key, will not.
lot of tools do it renew
vvdi mb bga,ak500, cgdi mb…
How many types of Mercedes NEC key?
v51 v57
v28 v35 v40 v51 v57
v03 v06 v07 v08 v09 v61
v28 v35 v40 v51 v57
v03 v05 v06 v07 v08 v09 v59 v61
Here’s the guide on renewing NEC 57 key with VVDI MB Tool.
Put the NEC57 key chip on VVDI NEC Key Adapter
Put NEC Key Adapter on VVDI MB
Connect VVDI MB Tool with laptop and open latest VVDI MB software.
Now you can start to virgin Mercedes NEC57!
Select mode “NEC Adapter” then choose type “V51, V57”.
“Identification key”
VVDI MB will read NEC V57 key info successfully!
Key number is 1.
“Renew” to virgin NEC V57 key.
Wait a while key erasing complete 100% and success!
“Identification key” again and read key info to check if key is successfully erased.
And you can see now key information is blank and things done!
Done!
VVDI Prog Renesas R5F61797 Chip Not Support Read Data Solution
I was trying to read Renesas R5F61797 MCU by Xhorse VVDI Prog programmer.
Why is this on the list if is not supported? I spend time to remove unit to solder wires. If is not supported just don’t put it there now i will look like an idiot to client also.
Solution from Xhorse engineer Auto Key Programmer :
This chip has no communication port for read data, that’s why VVDI prog software with prompt: This chip not support read data!!!
if you have the dump, load the dump it support write directly. Please read the software prompt before your work.
Feedback For OBDSTAR F108+ PSA PIN CODE TOOL via OBD
OBDSTAR F108+ is good and safe PSA PIN CODE reading tool, fast read pin code via OBD.
Hardware check = OK
HW: 4.02
SW: 06.18
P/C/DS ver: 31.20
Tested OBDSTAR F108+ read pin with working key:
Citroen ds3 2013- ok
Citroen picaso 2009- ok
Peugeot 207sw 2004- ok
Peugeot 407 2004-ok
Peugeot 307 2005- ok
2010 C4 picasso
2012 308 read pin code within 6-7 minutes. all fine.
207 2009. Need igntion On – OFF 10 times in 7mn. Pin read succesful.
Peugeot 208 2013, very fast. Only ignition OFF – ON 1 time and it give pincode.
C3 2014 Valeo BSI, one time OFF ON and give pincode.
Peugeot 307 2008 pin code read-ok
Citroen C5 FAST-OK
307 CAN > 2005
PIN CODE OK , 4/5 minute
Tested on PEUGEOT 307 , year 2006
Peugeot 207 -07: about 7mn
Jumpy – 08/09: about 6mn.
(All for additional key. Use pin and program with X100+. )
Citroen Picasso 2006, r`eading pin OK
Citroen C3 , Engine 9HZ, year 2005, reading PIN = OK
Peugeot 207 , Engine 9HZ , year 2006, reading PIN = OK
-> I have extracted pin from over 20 cars, all fine. Not necessary to connect charger to car as it doesn’t put Bsi in service mode like psa bsi tool, or avdi where windscreen wipers would activate etc. On average 5 to 8 minutes, although a 508 and a 2008 I did it found code almost instantaneously.
-> “F108+” LAST UPDATE V31.20 positive feedback:
tested on 2004 Citron C4 , PIN code retrieve less of 4 minutes , verified with Diagbox
VIN: VF7LC9HXC74172360
PIN:HS19
Diagbox ( in french “same PIN code registered inside BSI” )
PCB Full chip
I plug on OBD2 and F108+ sniffing “kwp fast”traffic , i turn ignition “on/of” 10 times / 4 minutes
2004 C4 / this car is not CAN ! CAN protocol is after 2008 on PSA car , some user say NO HE CAN’T , but yes we can !
I’m sure full chip PCB F108+ with last update can retrieve all PIN code , it’s the same BSI for PSA ( Siemens , Valeo & J-C ) .
And if it’s not FULL CHIP tool F108+ , CONNECTION BREAK DOWN , k-line is not operational .
Thanks TERMINATOR1000 & Duracell2’s experience share (DK member)
More OBDSTAR F108 FAQ:
- Update onlineonly by micro SD card , 1 year free access after registration , serial number + dealer ID for registration : “OBDSTAR UpgradeTools”
- Is it true: The device just can support the car after 2008 year and the car which is CAN Protocol.?
Answer: No, FAKE NEWS , my report prouve that F108+ support “no-CAN” car before 2008 …. I’m suppose they advertise old F108 support the car after 2008 year and the car which is CAN Protocol
Many bad feedback on forum , i’m not OBDSTAR seller , but 1 test 1 PIN !
Sure for the other buyers of F108 without chip , it’s sad , PCB is incomplet K-LINE is unplug ! no miracle …
So i have just used this little device for reading pin codes and so far 100% success. Personally I would recommend it to anyone thinking of buying one as its cost is low and 1-2 keys pays for it already.
OBDSTAR F108 PSA pin code reader Aliexpress or a shop?
Many people purchase OBDSTAR F108+ Auto Key Programmer from Ali because of its low price, but there are used some users feedback, they bought their OBDSTAR F108+ from this site. They charge more than the sellers on AliExpress but they are able to use PayPal and had no issues with payment or shipping (got the package a week after they ordered it).
http://www.fobdii.com/wholesale-54-obdstar-f108-psa-pin-code-reading-and-key-programming-tool.html
VVDI2 vs Zed Full what is better for VAG & BMW?
VVDI2 Key Programmer vs ZED FULL what tool is better for VAG and BMW key programming?
Look here:
Rely 1: I have Zed-Full and to be honest it’s a bit of a disappointment. Slow bringing out anything new on the VAG front. Older A3’s and TT’s never seems to be able to read the pin when other tools do fine. Not great on newer Marelli dash especially doesn’t like the one in the VW UP. Never manages to read any CAS modules by OBD (used to ok but hasn’t successfully read a single one for months) on top of that it’s expensive to run.
I’m about to order Xhorse VVDI2 (Would have updated my AVDI but not going to be forced into dealing with KAP)
Reply 2: i have vvdi2 and zed full. for vag and bmw vvdi2 is best for me
zed full is good too for other marks
Reply 3: I had Zedfull for almost two years.
The day I bought it was happy day that week.
The day I sold it out was happiest day in my life .
VAG mostly if I couldn’t do with other tools Zedfull also cannot (PIN CODE).
Pretty expensive device for using indeed on tokens. Learn key for Passat B5 can cost about 25 – 30 tokens if procedure go okay (example),
pin code 20 + 5 or 10 for learning. Almost 20 years old car.
Hah chinese 100$ cost device can do the job with blink. These cars should be there for free for the price device cost.
VAG immo 4 chinese ID48 cannot learn but tokens take. Support says: “Use original or zedfull ID48” .
Basically support not very good, they reply sometimes . If you loose some tokens because the device CANNOT or wrong transponder you never gain them back but the claim before buy was different.
Did not try BMW when you see how many tokens they want – 50 tokens (about 35$) for key. What do you think for try?
Mitsubishi smart key cannot add, chinese device learn key with blink.
This device is for dummies… click there … click here .. done. For begginers maybe good but not for professionals.
I was disappointed with the device and support.
Reply 4: I have both, vvdi2 is better, ZED FULL always delay with their softwares and updates compared with other tools.
Reply 5: i agree. also have a zedfull, in bmw is my only option (have a tcode pro but dont buy bmw modules). made a few bmw, a x5 and x6 by obd and work fine, and a mini too. in vag is not very updated, sometimes in vw brazil have a few issues, for ex: trying to make a all key lost 2015 voyage, read pin ok, and tell me wait 15 min for security, then make weird config and dashboard say key 2-6, dont accept more keys, try again, wait another 15min, and again, i want 2 key and zedfull put 6 in programming. tcode make ok in the first attempt
Reply 6: if you need good tool for BMW CAS/MB EZS (read and write MB IR key), buy xhorse vvdi2. it makes keys over OBD (90% of VAG and BMW can be done by OBD in VVDI2) and includes all the VVDI functions
In summary,
If you looking only for VAG + BMW , then VVDI2 and VVDI prog is way to go. No need any other tool. In VVDI2 you have also programmer similar to Tango that you can make keys buy dump, but 90% of VAG and BMW can be done by OBD in VVDI2.
VVDI programmer don’t have OBD it’s only for bench programming.
Good for CAS4, FRM, EZS, EWS4 and many more.